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  1. The point about the traceability problem is very interesting.

    Using global identifiers for each single piece of data could be useful in improving traceability. This is done in other domains, such as for spending data in local UK government, e.g. http://spending.lichfielddc.gov.uk/spend/8605670 identifies one individual payment. This is a so called http-based URI (Uniform Resource Identifier). So, how could a URI look like for an observation in a clinical study? In a recent presentation in the CDISC Interchange Europe conference 1) you can see some examples (slide 40) for linking clinical data using URI:s

    Also, using a data provenance approach to represent a detailed view on the life of a single pieces of data, using standards such as the Provenance Vocabulary 2), could be useful in improving traceability. Both for both data creation/capture, and for access/derivation

    1) http://www.slideshare.net/kerfors/linking-clinical-data-standards

    2) http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/trdf/index.php?title=Guide_to_the_Provenance_Vocabulary

  2. This CDER document is a great step forward, as it also allows us to design (new) studies with the (future) expectations of CDER for our later submission of that study in mind (although things can change). This complements to the thought “set up studies with submission in mind”.

    The document however contains a number of glitches but also some frightening things. A few examples:

    - “Additionally, sponsors should refer to the Amendment 1 to SDTM V1.2 located at the following CDISC.org site”.
    This amendment is still in public review and thus can still change. So I think it is a bit too early to refer to this document. The latter also contains some surprising things, such as new derived or “look up” variables which should not be in SDTM (I will blog separately about that).

    - “As a transition step, CDER prefers that sponsors submit both the define.pdf and define.xml formats. CDER will advise when it is ready to only receive define.xml.”
    Whoops! Six years after the publication of the define.xml standard, CDER seems still to be unable to implement it in its IT systems. Is that the reason they still want a define.pdf or is it because a PDF can be printed out and so the reviewers can take it home? Is printing out not a giant security risk? Would you, as a sponsor, like it to hear that a reviewer left the printed metadata about your study on the Washington metro on his/her way home?

    - “Please include the variables EPOCH, ELEMENT, and ETCD … for every subject-level observation”.
    This information is already available in the “trial visits” domain (TE) in the variable TVSTRL. So if VISITNUM is given (one could change it to “expected” in the next version of SDTM) a simple lookup would be sufficient to retrieve the information.
    I agree that this is a minor issue, but it is replication of information.

    - “The SDTM Implementation Guide (SDTMIG) should be followed carefully.”
    In my opinion this conflicts with the previous statements about the (not-yet-approved) amendments and the statement about including “EPOCH” etc. If these are CDER requirements, they should go into a new, updated version of the SDTM-IG (and which should have a new version number by the way).

    - “The size of the LB domain is often quite large and can exceed the reviewers’ ability to open the file using standard-issue computers. This size issue can be addressed by splitting the large LB dataset …” and “Sponsors should submit these smaller files in addition to the larger non-split standard LB domain file”.
    This is a pretty dangerous statement. If the “full” LB.xpt file cannot be opened by the reviewer, could it then be opened by the sponsor? Or does CDER here require sponsors to submit a file that sponsors cannot open themselves? If the latter is true, how can the sponsor then validate that file? Or should the sponsor submit a black box?

    - “Permissible variables in SDTM that CDER expects to see include: …”
    Well if they are expected by CDER, then they should be listed as “expected” in the SDTMIG isn’t it? Or do we allow several versions of the SDTMIG: one for CDER, one for CBER, one for … ?
    The statement also conflicts with the statement “The SDTM Implementation Guide (SDTMIG) should be followed carefully”.

    - “Dates in SDTM and SEND domains should conform to the ISO 8601 format … Missing components should be handled by right truncation ..”
    A minor issue, but this is not a correct statement for incomplete dates and times (this is NOT the same as partial date and time). ISO 8601 requires the missing part to be replaced by a dash. For example if the month is unknown, ISO8601 requires yyyy—dd (remark the middle dash).

    - “SDTM should not include any imputed data”.
    It would be nice if CDER defines what the word “imputed” means, as there may be different explanations/interpretations in different cultures (P.S. I am not a native english speaker). If it was meant that no values should be added to replace missing values, then the statement is correct. If it means that SDTM should not include derived data, then the statement is incorrect, as SDTM is (unfortunately) already full of derived data.

    Further this an excellent document, giving us a lot of information, and repeating many of the “good practices” that experienced SDTM implementors already know.

    P.S. I also mailed my comments to the FDA separately.

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